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December 16th 2008, 11:47 PM
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Striker
Noble She/Her United States
Daniel, there are clowns. 
Some stuff was released and updated in the past few months, they are...

Stamina
Ice Orb Spell
Hotel of the Middle Night
Percent Based Life Bar
Magical Mayhem
Duality
GNU FreeDink

December 17th 2008, 05:40 AM
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Someone
Peasant He/Him Australia
 
It is nice to see FreeDink on the front page, albeit with no description. I'm perplexed by the community's apparently disinterest in FreeDink, so I will present a description.

FreeDink is not a Linux port of Dink but a rewrite of the Dink engine (i.e. Dink.exe). A rewrite was necessary because the original code was too messy and inefficient to make expansion (e.g. adding new features) feasible. It works on both Linux and Windows.

The "free" and "GNU" in "GNU FreeDink" implies that FreeDink adheres to the ideals of GNU/Linux/open-source movement. This means that the license agreement ensures that FreeDink is very close to being public domain. The source is freely downloaded and anyone can submit contributions for Beuc to approve and add to FreeDink.

As FreeDink is functionally a clone of Dink, FreeDink may be currently uninteresting for most. However, we now have a clean base to work off and a programmer (Beuc) who is active in the community and understands the code. Therefore, extensions such as a proper scripting language is relatively easy and certainly now viable.

Unless I mention Windemere this post will not be complete. I do not understand Merlin's motives for resurrecting Windemere instead of contributing to FreeDink. I submit that FreeDink is a superior project to Windemere because a) FreeDink runs the original DMODs, and b) FreeDink is open to community and collaboration (GNU).

By deciding to support reverse-compatibility despite the difficulty in doing this, Beuc ensued that our DMODs won't be forgotten. FreeDink is really Dink in both form and spirit, and it has the potential to be modernised.

Windemere, in comparison to FreeDink, appears to be an individual's project that bears the Dink name primarily for pragmatic reasons. I was hitherto reticent on Windemere, even in light of the enigmatic disparity in the community responses to FreeDink and Windemere, because I do not know Merlin's motive for ignoring FreeDink.

I believe that Beuc's FreeDink contribution to Dink is only surpassed by redink's collective contributions. Just as redink extended Dink's life by many years, FreeDink may continue Dink into the future if it is nurtured. Any project that does not run the old DMODs can not do this.

I would like Windemere to succeed. I mean no malice towards Merlin, and would not refer to FreeDink/Windemere competition if Merlin did not talk as if FreeDink did not exist (e.g. Windemere is "the next generation of that which is Dink" without mention of FreeDink). I only argue that if people are so interested in Windemere they should be even more excited by FreeDink; I don't understand why they aren't.
December 17th 2008, 09:49 AM
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Christiaan
Bard They/Them Netherlands
Lazy bum 
Hey, don't take it personal. The staff in general is extremely distracted, hence the "lazy post" title. It basically means people can't get excited about anything as the place is kind of falling apart.

I can see how FreeDink is an amazing contribution, and, if "advertized" properly, will bring lots of new Dinkers to this site.

It's too bad no one is willing to put any energy in bringing the word out there anymore. That's why I hope there will be new staff members soon that are able to reanimate the place a little.
December 18th 2008, 12:22 AM
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Striker
Noble She/Her United States
Daniel, there are clowns. 
Honestly, it is nothing personal towards Beuc or FreeDink... it's just I've been busy and disinterested in Dink lately... and so seems to be the rest of the staff (only moreso).

Looking in the files and how long they had been there, I figured it was better to approve what was there and probably legit rather let it sit, even if I couldn't write anything about it.
December 18th 2008, 02:27 AM
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I can see how FreeDink is an amazing contribution, and, if "advertized" properly, will bring lots of new Dinkers to this site.

Yeah, I think the (lack of) merketing is what's behind the seeming disinterest in FreeDink. Why has no one been hyping this thing for years and years? This is the second time I remember it being brought up outside of passing mentions.

With luck the interest would pick up now that the thing is here, though I agree the project is in dire need of advertizing. Something like...
December 18th 2008, 08:23 AM
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Christiaan
Bard They/Them Netherlands
Lazy bum 
Haha, very nice! If that doesn't lure thousands of people to FreeDink I don't know what will.
December 18th 2008, 04:02 PM
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I think that what you pointed out is the reason why there is (or at least seems to be) more excitement about Windemere than FreeDink: "FreeDink is functionally a clone of Dink" and "Windemere is 'the next generation of that which is Dink'".

What I mean is that FreeDink is a rewrite of the original game to make it better, cleaner etc. and when it was announced it was also to ask for beta testers, help with the code, new sounds and so on.
Windemere on the other hand is presented as 'Dink 2' and when that was announced Merlin was saying 'Ok I've done the hard stuff so who wants to help out with the first new D-Mod?'.

So you can see why there seems to be more enthusiasm for Windemere, whether that is actually the case or not. Also for most people there's no real point to using FreeDink over v1.08 but Windemere would be a whole new thing. Also (again) as far as I know Windemere has been around for a lot longer than FreeDink and has become something of a legend, or a standing joke, however you want to look at it.
December 24th 2008, 10:41 PM
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carrie2004
Peasant She/Her Canada
*chomp* 
Whattya mean this place is falling apart?
December 26th 2008, 03:57 AM
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schnapper
Peasant He/Him Heard Island And Mcdonald Islands
Let us save our effort and just lie down and die. 
The place is falling apart because the newB cannons have sunk to rust and disuse.
January 2nd 2009, 05:26 PM
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Beuc
Peasant He/Him France
 
Whoah, I missed this thread and actually found it after checking this weird eero.site90.net site in my web stats backlinks Thanks for the cheers, I needed that!

Now how about getting this thread sticky too?