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A D-mod being rated on just the length of the main story is like rating the game on just half of its total content. That is bullshoot. The main story is NOT the entire experience of the game, and it cannot be classified just based on half of the game, or even 80% of it. No games are ever rated just on their main story. Side missions, collectibles, whatever, are always taken into consideration with all those people who rate games professionally. When a D-mod has 6 hours of content, but only 3 of it is main story and "matters", it is still an epic, because it has 6 hours of content. Trying to justify rating a game as a quest because it's main story is 3 hours in this scenario doesn't do justice to the D-mod as a whole. The entire D-mod worth of content needs to be taken into consideration when classifying it as an epic, otherwise you're just disrespecting the D-mod and the author.
Um... that's exactly what I've been saying. You need to look at the D-Mod as a whole. To be an Epic it needs to fill all the requirements of one. Having just a long storyline won't suffice, nor having a big map, nor having the Epic feel. You need to have them all. The only thing I'm saying shouldn't be counted is the time that the player spends doing stuff that isn't required to win the game. If you play HH2, the main storyline won't cover even half of the things there are to do. Yet, the main story is what the length should be determined by, since not everyone will do all the side stuff. But that doesn't mean they haven't won the game.
Not intending to brag, just making a point: My Shadows of Death D-mod would easily fit into most criteria for an epic (when finished). 5 hours of content, 80% of the map screens used, and probably nearly 400 scripts (not filler). Even you would say that's an epic.
Actually, I wouldn't. The map is big, sure, and you have a lot of scripts (which doesn't really matter all that much). But previously you said the main story would be around 3 hours, which I don't count as an Epic. This means the remaining two hours is just additional filler that essentially doesn't matter. The player doesn't need to do it, it's just there if he wants to do it.
Um... that's exactly what I've been saying. You need to look at the D-Mod as a whole. To be an Epic it needs to fill all the requirements of one. Having just a long storyline won't suffice, nor having a big map, nor having the Epic feel. You need to have them all. The only thing I'm saying shouldn't be counted is the time that the player spends doing stuff that isn't required to win the game. If you play HH2, the main storyline won't cover even half of the things there are to do. Yet, the main story is what the length should be determined by, since not everyone will do all the side stuff. But that doesn't mean they haven't won the game.
Not intending to brag, just making a point: My Shadows of Death D-mod would easily fit into most criteria for an epic (when finished). 5 hours of content, 80% of the map screens used, and probably nearly 400 scripts (not filler). Even you would say that's an epic.
Actually, I wouldn't. The map is big, sure, and you have a lot of scripts (which doesn't really matter all that much). But previously you said the main story would be around 3 hours, which I don't count as an Epic. This means the remaining two hours is just additional filler that essentially doesn't matter. The player doesn't need to do it, it's just there if he wants to do it.
