Duplicate Account Court: Skull / Dertin / Dertin2 / Jameil / Slime
My fellow Dinkers,
I humbly offer my evidence for why I believe that skull, Dertin/Dertin2, Jameil, and Slime are, in fact, the same person.
I deactivated the Dertin and Slime accounts a few weeks ago, because it appeared that they were the same person as skull. After Dertin protested, I thought perhaps I was mistaken, and I waited to accumulate evidence.
A couple weeks ago, the Dertin2 account was created. At first, he felt 'different' then skull, but after re-examining the evidence, I am now convinced they're the same person. This is why:
In his profile, skull says "I'm fan of Cloud Castles"
When I questioned Dertin about this, he stated that "I did make the e-mail address many many years before skull was even my friend. He would have put a skull named address but somebody was already took it".
At the time, this satisfied me, but looking back it doesn't make much sense. Certainly, he could have created an e-mail address like 'skull2005' instead of 'skull1995'
Let's say he posted this on May 24th. Later on in that thread, he states that he got back 3 days before, on May 21st. So, he left around May 7th. But, he posted several times on May 11th. May 11th is the day that Dertin2 was created.
Admittedly, this is pretty flimsy. Expecting a 12-year-old person to remember the name of the country they just visited or the exact amount of time they spent there may be unreasonable.
Skull, Dertin, Dertin2, Slime, and Jameil all use the same IP address (with a few minor exceptions), which is assigned to a DSL pool in Finland. Usually, one IP address is assigned per computer. It is possible that all four individuals use an ISP with a NAT, but this is unlikely, because it is not possible to ping the IP address when skull is not online.
Also, it seems that skull thinks the computer where you create an account is all that matters. Shortly before Dertin2 was created, skull posted a message on a different computer than normal. Then, 7 minutes later, Dertin2 appeared and posted several messages using this same computer. Hours later, he resumed posting using skull's normal IP address.
If anyone objects to my ruling, please reply.
I humbly offer my evidence for why I believe that skull, Dertin/Dertin2, Jameil, and Slime are, in fact, the same person.
I deactivated the Dertin and Slime accounts a few weeks ago, because it appeared that they were the same person as skull. After Dertin protested, I thought perhaps I was mistaken, and I waited to accumulate evidence.
A couple weeks ago, the Dertin2 account was created. At first, he felt 'different' then skull, but after re-examining the evidence, I am now convinced they're the same person. This is why:
Evidence File 1: Usernames
Dertin and Jameil are characters in Cloud Castle 2. While it is certainly possible both users played Cloud Castle 2 before creating their accounts, I suspect that skull created Dertin and Jameil because he is a fan of the D-Mod.In his profile, skull says "I'm fan of Cloud Castles"
Evidence File 2: E-mail Addresses
The users all have registered e-mail addresses at 'luukku.com'. Particularly, Dertin has the e-mail address 'skull1995@luukku.com', which seems odd.When I questioned Dertin about this, he stated that "I did make the e-mail address many many years before skull was even my friend. He would have put a skull named address but somebody was already took it".
At the time, this satisfied me, but looking back it doesn't make much sense. Certainly, he could have created an e-mail address like 'skull2005' instead of 'skull1995'
Evidence File 3: Inconsistencies
Skull recently said that "Just came back from other country. Let's say. I'd got some holidays. I've been gone for two weeks, but yeah! Now I'm back. Just got back 3 days ago.".Let's say he posted this on May 24th. Later on in that thread, he states that he got back 3 days before, on May 21st. So, he left around May 7th. But, he posted several times on May 11th. May 11th is the day that Dertin2 was created.
Admittedly, this is pretty flimsy. Expecting a 12-year-old person to remember the name of the country they just visited or the exact amount of time they spent there may be unreasonable.
Evidence File 4: IP Addresses
I've saved the best for last, like bacon after a bowl of ice cream.Skull, Dertin, Dertin2, Slime, and Jameil all use the same IP address (with a few minor exceptions), which is assigned to a DSL pool in Finland. Usually, one IP address is assigned per computer. It is possible that all four individuals use an ISP with a NAT, but this is unlikely, because it is not possible to ping the IP address when skull is not online.
Also, it seems that skull thinks the computer where you create an account is all that matters. Shortly before Dertin2 was created, skull posted a message on a different computer than normal. Then, 7 minutes later, Dertin2 appeared and posted several messages using this same computer. Hours later, he resumed posting using skull's normal IP address.
Conclusion
Skull has created multiple accounts, after being informed that this was wrong. This is not tolerated. I will delete Dertin2 and Jameil shortly. If skull admits to his deception, he will not be banananned.If anyone objects to my ruling, please reply.
Not an objection as such, but here goes:
Evidence File 1
skull says "I'm fan of Cloud Castles"
Who isn't? And if they are seperate people and friends (as has been mentioned I think) then it makes sense for them to have played the same D-Mod.
Evidence File 2
If they're all Finnish and friends then it's likely they'd use the same email provider.
looking back it doesn't make much sense. Certainly, he could have created an e-mail address like 'skull2005' instead of 'skull1995'
I'd agree with that!
Evidence File 3
lol.
Evidence File 4
Well, I don't know that much about IP addresses, but is it possible they could be using a LAN with ICS (internet connection sharing) at school or something?
I wonder if ever 2 of them have been online at the same time?... I don't suppose you have a log of that though.
Conclusion
Possible that they are different, though pretty unlikely I suppose!
Evidence File 1
skull says "I'm fan of Cloud Castles"
Who isn't? And if they are seperate people and friends (as has been mentioned I think) then it makes sense for them to have played the same D-Mod.
Evidence File 2
If they're all Finnish and friends then it's likely they'd use the same email provider.
looking back it doesn't make much sense. Certainly, he could have created an e-mail address like 'skull2005' instead of 'skull1995'
I'd agree with that!
Evidence File 3
lol.
Evidence File 4
Well, I don't know that much about IP addresses, but is it possible they could be using a LAN with ICS (internet connection sharing) at school or something?
I wonder if ever 2 of them have been online at the same time?... I don't suppose you have a log of that though.
Conclusion
Possible that they are different, though pretty unlikely I suppose!
Please, don't start it again! Maybe they are almoust same IPs cause we LIVE in Finland. Slime and Dertin are my friends. Jameil is my old daddy man. And if you want to know where I was, we call it: "Viro". Not sure how to say it on english. Hey! Anybody can say it on english? And I suppose Dertin created the e-mail adress as skull'1995' because he was born on 1995. He took that, and there were no any other 'skull' named profiles left. So, I decided to make mine as, m.kares. Comes from my name, Matias Kares. We aren't the same person!
Edit: Why do you keep us like some kind of weirdos? We are just a double of people who created their first accounts with same computer.
Edit: Why do you keep us like some kind of weirdos? We are just a double of people who created their first accounts with same computer.
I honestly don't see the harm, even if it is the case. Sure, it could be used for harm, but I see no evidence of it here. If they were trying to game the site, they'd all be pushing out reviews, etc. But I see no crossing of reviews, or anything of the like. If one person was all of them, they'd be reviewing another accounts files consistently, and pushing out reviews for the same files with high scores. I don't see that happening right now. The personalities appear to be different.
I think this is a case of a low-tolerance rule with not enough tolerance. Even if they are the same, what's the harm? If the multiple accounts start gaming the site, messing with reviews, then yeah, use your full powers as the dictator. Otherwise... why?
I think this is a case of a low-tolerance rule with not enough tolerance. Even if they are the same, what's the harm? If the multiple accounts start gaming the site, messing with reviews, then yeah, use your full powers as the dictator. Otherwise... why?
You were in Estonia, buying cheap booze? Shame on you.
Ehhh, I don't know about this duplicate accounts thing. At a point I thought they might actually be different people but it doesn't seem very likely. It's odd if they're all using but a few different IPs, and none of these stories like this one about the email addresses sound very plausible.
I'm somewhat with Chrispy on this one, unless they abuse their accounts horribly or more indiscriminating evidence is found there's no paramount reason to ban them.
Ehhh, I don't know about this duplicate accounts thing. At a point I thought they might actually be different people but it doesn't seem very likely. It's odd if they're all using but a few different IPs, and none of these stories like this one about the email addresses sound very plausible.
I'm somewhat with Chrispy on this one, unless they abuse their accounts horribly or more indiscriminating evidence is found there's no paramount reason to ban them.
Jameil is my old daddy man
Gee, your old daddy man has bad grammar!
*mumbles* Pfft! Liar...
We are just a double of people who created their first accounts with same computer.
You all have PCs right? You know, Personal Computers!
Why do you keep us like some kind of weirdos?
We don't treat you like weirdos! We just want you to confess! You ain't allowed to create multiple accounts so don't!
Recently there have been quite a few dupliucate accounts! There were those three that were banned. Ownedya, someone and someone. I forgot their names. And know there's these ones! Have there always been this many duplicate accounts or is this the first time as many as this has happened?
I'm somewhat with Chrispy on this one, unless they abuse their accounts horribly or more discriminating evidence is found there's no paramount reason to ban them.
No offense but I Beg to Differ! Multiple accounts are multiple accounts! Ban them all! Or leave one if you're feeling nice!
I'm just gonna say one more thing.
LOL!
Gee, your old daddy man has bad grammar!
*mumbles* Pfft! Liar...
We are just a double of people who created their first accounts with same computer.
You all have PCs right? You know, Personal Computers!
Why do you keep us like some kind of weirdos?
We don't treat you like weirdos! We just want you to confess! You ain't allowed to create multiple accounts so don't!
Recently there have been quite a few dupliucate accounts! There were those three that were banned. Ownedya, someone and someone. I forgot their names. And know there's these ones! Have there always been this many duplicate accounts or is this the first time as many as this has happened?
I'm somewhat with Chrispy on this one, unless they abuse their accounts horribly or more discriminating evidence is found there's no paramount reason to ban them.
No offense but I Beg to Differ! Multiple accounts are multiple accounts! Ban them all! Or leave one if you're feeling nice!
I'm just gonna say one more thing.
LOL!
Evidence File 1: Usernames
If they're friends it's sensible if they have some things in common, like being fond of cloudcastle2...
Evidence File 2: E-mail Addresses
I think the explanation skull gives for making the skull1995 instead of skull2005 is sensible. I know a lot of people who have their birthyear in their email address. On the other hand I don't know that many people who have the year they created the email address in the name...
On the other hand it's still weird that dertin registers an email address called skull.
Evidence File 3: Inconsistencies
Skull posted a message on may 18th as well, which would be inconsistent. Furthermore skull posted on april 22th that he would leave for 4 weeks, not two.
Evidence File 4: IP Addresses
That's very suspicious to say the least. Often there's really little time between posts from skull and dertin2, if they're coming from the same IP address...
I do think that the DMOD kill bill is very different from the skull's HOC series though, it doesn't feel like it was made by the same person. Plus the low posting rate from jameil makes me feel they might actually be different. The evidence over dertin2/skull seems pretty convincing though.
If they're friends it's sensible if they have some things in common, like being fond of cloudcastle2...
Evidence File 2: E-mail Addresses
I think the explanation skull gives for making the skull1995 instead of skull2005 is sensible. I know a lot of people who have their birthyear in their email address. On the other hand I don't know that many people who have the year they created the email address in the name...
On the other hand it's still weird that dertin registers an email address called skull.
Evidence File 3: Inconsistencies
Skull posted a message on may 18th as well, which would be inconsistent. Furthermore skull posted on april 22th that he would leave for 4 weeks, not two.
Evidence File 4: IP Addresses
That's very suspicious to say the least. Often there's really little time between posts from skull and dertin2, if they're coming from the same IP address...
I do think that the DMOD kill bill is very different from the skull's HOC series though, it doesn't feel like it was made by the same person. Plus the low posting rate from jameil makes me feel they might actually be different. The evidence over dertin2/skull seems pretty convincing though.
It's called logic! He does it on purpose to make you think that! No! NO! NOOOOO! YOU'RE ALL FALLING TO THE DARK SIDE! NOOOOOOO! HOLD OUT AGAINST THAT ANGER! LET'S SAY IT NOW! BAN THEM! BAN THEM! BAN THEM!
Sorry if I seem a little mean...
Sorry if I seem a little mean...
I demand a video with Slime, Dertin, Jameil and Skull.The
video must show all 4 people in the same shot...
otherwise I shall...um...not believe they're seperate people.
video must show all 4 people in the same shot...
otherwise I shall...um...not believe they're seperate people.
Hell, enough of us have our own little idiosyncrasies, what's a little multiple personality disorder among this bunch? It adds to the life of the community.
I demand a video with Slime, Dertin, Jameil and Skull.The
video must show all 4 people in the same shot...
otherwise I shall...um...not believe they're seperate people.
What a good idea!
And what you said Chrispy.
Sorry but, I still beg to differ! (Heh heh! I love that!)
video must show all 4 people in the same shot...
otherwise I shall...um...not believe they're seperate people.
What a good idea!
And what you said Chrispy.
Sorry but, I still beg to differ! (Heh heh! I love that!)
Wasn't there a rule(quote) that said we had to have at least
3 mental disorders and then we'd fit in fine here?
3 mental disorders and then we'd fit in fine here?
Examining and comparing Dertin2's posts and Skull's posts their definitely seems to be a personality trend between them... and I have not found any evidence to show that Dertin2 has ever been on at the same time as Skull, which I would expect to happen at least once.
Skull's story seems off to me, as soon as Marpro asked Dertin2 what happened to Skull, Skull suddenly appeared after being absent for three days. That would have been the 20th, when he claims to have returned from vacation- that makes sense. What doesn't make sense is that he he posted on the 19th, the 18th, and the 11th... all times he was supposed to be on vacation. If he went on vacation, it was for ONE week. He probably meant one week, still the story is not convincing.
That week Dertin2 happened to be very active.
Also the posts for th 19th and 18th of Skull's were either followed or preceded WITHIN MINUTES by a series of posts by Dertin2. Unfortunately, Skull posts only one post each of those days, and each represents a break in a chain of fairly regular posts by Dertin2 over the course of the day.
You are friends and family: Why wait until now to bring this up? Others have been claiming Dertin2 to be Skull for the last couple of days now.
While none of these points are conclusive, I find them suspicious.
It is quite likely that Dertin2 is a duplicate.
NO OFFENSE Skull: I enjoy the comments made by both you and Dertin2. It's just that I don't find the scenarios that you presented very unlikely, and what evidence I have provided added to redink1's pretty much swings my vote from a MAYBE to a GUILTY. I do agree with Chrispy and Scratcher, though. I cannot think of any thing bad or policy breaking that has been committed other than the multiple accounts. As long as Dertin isn't trying to get us to agree with Skull or vice-versa, I personally see no problem. I would reccomend giving them a 3 month grace period, at the end of which, their posts can be reviewed to see that Dertin2 really is being used to sockpuppet whatever Skull says. If Skull cannot convince us that Dertin2 is not a double by the end of that period I move that Dertin2 immediately be debunked. I also move that we make this topic sticky for the time being at least.
Skull's story seems off to me, as soon as Marpro asked Dertin2 what happened to Skull, Skull suddenly appeared after being absent for three days. That would have been the 20th, when he claims to have returned from vacation- that makes sense. What doesn't make sense is that he he posted on the 19th, the 18th, and the 11th... all times he was supposed to be on vacation. If he went on vacation, it was for ONE week. He probably meant one week, still the story is not convincing.
That week Dertin2 happened to be very active.
Also the posts for th 19th and 18th of Skull's were either followed or preceded WITHIN MINUTES by a series of posts by Dertin2. Unfortunately, Skull posts only one post each of those days, and each represents a break in a chain of fairly regular posts by Dertin2 over the course of the day.
You are friends and family: Why wait until now to bring this up? Others have been claiming Dertin2 to be Skull for the last couple of days now.
While none of these points are conclusive, I find them suspicious.
It is quite likely that Dertin2 is a duplicate.
NO OFFENSE Skull: I enjoy the comments made by both you and Dertin2. It's just that I don't find the scenarios that you presented very unlikely, and what evidence I have provided added to redink1's pretty much swings my vote from a MAYBE to a GUILTY. I do agree with Chrispy and Scratcher, though. I cannot think of any thing bad or policy breaking that has been committed other than the multiple accounts. As long as Dertin isn't trying to get us to agree with Skull or vice-versa, I personally see no problem. I would reccomend giving them a 3 month grace period, at the end of which, their posts can be reviewed to see that Dertin2 really is being used to sockpuppet whatever Skull says. If Skull cannot convince us that Dertin2 is not a double by the end of that period I move that Dertin2 immediately be debunked. I also move that we make this topic sticky for the time being at least.
I completely agree with REDink'1 on this. But I am not sure about Jameil(he did not post much on the forums. did he?). Delete all except skull(earliest joining date).
Evidence File 5: Psychology
->Soon after skull 1st time appeared on TDN he boasted that he has made a lot of dmods and asked how to put them up here in a thread. After somebody tells him then he takes 1-2 weeks and later comes up with a sick dmod which is soon found out to be a rip off of a honor of something dmod. Nobody wants to play anymore dmods for him. Meanwhile he was spending too much time on TDN and posting too much. Suddenly Dertin(known then as skull's friend) comes and announces a LotR dmod. After talking about it few days he goes away from the scene.
->Now Slime(So called Dertin's little brother) appears and announces a heptology. While this was going on Skull had vanished from TDN. I was surprised that how someone suddenly(>10 posts one day, zero the next day) overcome his addiction. Slime's dmod(HOC1) is released. And everybody scolds him for making it as it was. Slime is never seen again. Now skull comes back from nowhere and says his dmod(skull's) is better than slime's dmod. Few days after he himself releases HOC2.
->Redink'1 deletes Slime and Dertin's accounts. Skull has a couple of very stupid reason for everything. Some dinkers acknowledge that it is possible. Skull goes on releasing HOC dmods. One of his HOC dmod is found to be a modification of one of Sabre trout's dmod. And when even his last HOC(which he tried to hype up) does not get much attention(he also tried the virus, no virus thing). He abandons skull again.
->And now Dertin2 is back to continue LotR. While Dertin2 is here again there were only 2 total skull posts(which is not like skull). Dertin2 appears to be of different personality than skull in the starting. Maybe he is careful about it this time. He takes on the "Skull's walkthrough service" thread which skull had created when he was still new. It was revived by some noops looking for walkthroughs. Dertin2 accepts to make a walkthrough for those dmods. Why?? Skull did not mention his name anywhere in the thread. Meanwhile he's also reverting back to his original(skull) personality. And the rest is in his blog in his profile. Then recently somebody(not login- ghost message) asks Dertin2 "where's Skull?". Skull appears again the same day and gives out a stupid explanation of his absence. Again above in this thread he has another one.
<*#- Isn't this story good enough to make a dmod on. >
Conclusion- {*#- don't jump here without reading the story }
1- M.kares(in his lower teens) wants attention and when one of his profile image at Tdn is lost then he makes a new account.
2- He wants lots of people to play dmods. Which would not happen if people have already seen one of his previous dmods.
3- As you might have noticed he likes to makes stories and would lie to as far as he can think of.
Edit: I've been typing[so long] this from b4 Carrie:UeotU and Von Zeppelin posted. The video??? He'll probably get some of his actual friends who will claim to be Dertin or Jameil in the video.
Evidence File 5: Psychology
->Soon after skull 1st time appeared on TDN he boasted that he has made a lot of dmods and asked how to put them up here in a thread. After somebody tells him then he takes 1-2 weeks and later comes up with a sick dmod which is soon found out to be a rip off of a honor of something dmod. Nobody wants to play anymore dmods for him. Meanwhile he was spending too much time on TDN and posting too much. Suddenly Dertin(known then as skull's friend) comes and announces a LotR dmod. After talking about it few days he goes away from the scene.
->Now Slime(So called Dertin's little brother) appears and announces a heptology. While this was going on Skull had vanished from TDN. I was surprised that how someone suddenly(>10 posts one day, zero the next day) overcome his addiction. Slime's dmod(HOC1) is released. And everybody scolds him for making it as it was. Slime is never seen again. Now skull comes back from nowhere and says his dmod(skull's) is better than slime's dmod. Few days after he himself releases HOC2.
->Redink'1 deletes Slime and Dertin's accounts. Skull has a couple of very stupid reason for everything. Some dinkers acknowledge that it is possible. Skull goes on releasing HOC dmods. One of his HOC dmod is found to be a modification of one of Sabre trout's dmod. And when even his last HOC(which he tried to hype up) does not get much attention(he also tried the virus, no virus thing). He abandons skull again.
->And now Dertin2 is back to continue LotR. While Dertin2 is here again there were only 2 total skull posts(which is not like skull). Dertin2 appears to be of different personality than skull in the starting. Maybe he is careful about it this time. He takes on the "Skull's walkthrough service" thread which skull had created when he was still new. It was revived by some noops looking for walkthroughs. Dertin2 accepts to make a walkthrough for those dmods. Why?? Skull did not mention his name anywhere in the thread. Meanwhile he's also reverting back to his original(skull) personality. And the rest is in his blog in his profile. Then recently somebody(not login- ghost message) asks Dertin2 "where's Skull?". Skull appears again the same day and gives out a stupid explanation of his absence. Again above in this thread he has another one.
<*#- Isn't this story good enough to make a dmod on. >
Conclusion- {*#- don't jump here without reading the story }
1- M.kares(in his lower teens) wants attention and when one of his profile image at Tdn is lost then he makes a new account.
2- He wants lots of people to play dmods. Which would not happen if people have already seen one of his previous dmods.
3- As you might have noticed he likes to makes stories and would lie to as far as he can think of.
Edit: I've been typing[so long] this from b4 Carrie:UeotU and Von Zeppelin posted. The video??? He'll probably get some of his actual friends who will claim to be Dertin or Jameil in the video.
Thank you Harshit,
I actually was typing mine when Scratcher's reply had just been made, so I initially missed Carrie's comment too... It actually sounds like a good idea .
To Carrie: I have only one actual mental disorder. DARN
I actually was typing mine when Scratcher's reply had just been made, so I initially missed Carrie's comment too... It actually sounds like a good idea .
To Carrie: I have only one actual mental disorder. DARN
Wasn't there a rule(quote) that said we had to have at least
3 mental disorders and then we'd fit in fine here?
Then there was another one which discarded this one.
About mental disorders- When I was studying about them and the symptoms then I had a feeling that I had all of them.Weird?
There were certainly more than 3.
3 mental disorders and then we'd fit in fine here?
Then there was another one which discarded this one.
About mental disorders- When I was studying about them and the symptoms then I had a feeling that I had all of them.Weird?
There were certainly more than 3.
May 25th 2007, 04:59 AM
Robj
I completely agree with harshit, all this is just too much for it to be a coincidence. There might be a very very very very small chance of them being different people but I definitely believe they are all the same person.
Another thing:
LOL
Another thing:
LOL
Another thing:
LOL
Hey! You copied me!
LOL
Hey! You copied me!
Yeh, but I just had to say that as well.
Eh, stupid password field, I was supposed to log in, in my other post, lol.
Eh, stupid password field, I was supposed to log in, in my other post, lol.
I was wondering why your avatar didn't show up...
-Back on topic-
-Back on topic-
Didn't you read the one post? Ofcourse it was posted pretty long time ago. But I said I can be in TDN still, but I can't make my game. I suppose that post's in The War of the Ancients. But, why to use all your holidays only for TDN?
But I see no crossing of reviews, or anything of the like.
They have tried, but we've rejected the reviews.
They have tried, but we've rejected the reviews.
??
He takes on the "Skull's walkthrough service" thread which skull had created when he was still new. It was revived by some noops looking for walkthroughs. Dertin2 accepts to make a walkthrough for those dmods. Why?? Skull did not mention his name anywhere in the thread.
Actually it is Skull who replied in that thread (on May 20th) and he also replied in DD95's walkthrough thread on the same day. Dertin2 showed up the next day there but not at all in Skull's thread.
He takes on the "Skull's walkthrough service" thread which skull had created when he was still new. It was revived by some noops looking for walkthroughs. Dertin2 accepts to make a walkthrough for those dmods. Why?? Skull did not mention his name anywhere in the thread.
Actually it is Skull who replied in that thread (on May 20th) and he also replied in DD95's walkthrough thread on the same day. Dertin2 showed up the next day there but not at all in Skull's thread.
I think Redink1 is correct, he's so wise =) Also as Skull said "We all created our first account using the same computer" But I guess Redink made a sweet feature which lets him watch their actual IP addresses of when they login and post, and I guess they are the same. I'm getting pretty tired of this Poo, so end this missery and continue your job as an dictator
We all created our FIRST adress using the same computer.
Can you all three be online at the same time so we can actually see it?
"*mumbles* Pfft! Liar..."
How to start fights, lesson #1: call the other person a liar.
How to start fights, lesson #1: call the other person a liar.
Sparrowhawk-Dertin2 showed up the next day there but not at all in Skull's thread
I don't mean to say he showed up 1st on the Walkthrough thread.
Me-And now Dertin2 is back to continue LotR. While Dertin2 is here again there were only 2 total skull posts(which is not like skull). Dertin2 appears to be of different personality than skull in the starting. Maybe he is careful about it this time. He takes on the "Skull's walkthrough service" thread which skull had created when he was still new. It was revived by some noops looking for walkthroughs.
I mean that some noop revived this thread asking for walkthroughs. And after skull left Dertin2 took on the walkthrough service.
Anyways all this does not matter if you believe that these are duplicate accounts.
I don't mean to say he showed up 1st on the Walkthrough thread.
Me-And now Dertin2 is back to continue LotR. While Dertin2 is here again there were only 2 total skull posts(which is not like skull). Dertin2 appears to be of different personality than skull in the starting. Maybe he is careful about it this time. He takes on the "Skull's walkthrough service" thread which skull had created when he was still new. It was revived by some noops looking for walkthroughs.
I mean that some noop revived this thread asking for walkthroughs. And after skull left Dertin2 took on the walkthrough service.
Anyways all this does not matter if you believe that these are duplicate accounts.
Anyways all this does not matter if you believe that these are duplicate accounts.
And why have they not yet been deleted?
Redink1 has to be absolutely sure before doing anything, you have to think before you take action. And as the smart person he is, he knows how it's done (I think )
And why have they not yet been deleted?
Redink1 has to be absolutely sure before doing anything, you have to think before you take action. And as the smart person he is, he knows how it's done (I think )
@Glenn->Read the 1st post-
"I am now convinced they're the same person."
"I will delete Dertin2 and Jameil shortly."
"I am now convinced they're the same person."
"I will delete Dertin2 and Jameil shortly."
This reminds me of the time when Jamie\Iceman\and a few other names he used, that I can't recall happened.
Canadians never do this kind of stuff, we are to mentally imbalanced.
(GO SENS, GO!)
Canadians never do this kind of stuff, we are to mentally imbalanced.
(GO SENS, GO!)
I was just about to start singing 'Blame Canada, blame Canada!'
(what follows should not be considered off-topic)
And about time we declare Pineapple(don't ask) as a winner and start a new poll-
{in my priority order}
1) To have or not have the "last post by" column.
OR
2) The skull(D,slm,D2,J) case.
OR
3) What Carurie said.
OR
4) Deciding should deleting of intolerable dmods be allowed.
OR
5) Another joke poll. Like what we have currently.
And about time we declare Pineapple(don't ask) as a winner and start a new poll-
{in my priority order}
1) To have or not have the "last post by" column.
OR
2) The skull(D,slm,D2,J) case.
OR
3) What Carurie said.
OR
4) Deciding should deleting of intolerable dmods be allowed.
OR
5) Another joke poll. Like what we have currently.
No deletion of D-mods as punishment. That is unimaginably wrong.
Really, Redink1, this is wrong! There are some funny happenings, that could see we are the same persons. Maybe, because I am skull's father. But, you can't bann people if they've got ALMOUST the same IP address. That makes sense... for YOU maybe!! But, your things are sometimes nonsense! I don't mean anything bad. You're just trying to do right things, but they can be wrong. Everybody mistakes sometimes. But, really, think about it. They're all kids, well skull is 18, but... that's no matter. So, yeah, they're all kids who made a mistake first time they created their accounts. Yes, I know there is a mark that says 'You can only create one account'. Or something like it. But, maybe they didn't notice it. Maybe, their IPs are almoust same because we live near. Like, I live near skull, (he has moved already.) we've got Windows XP. All his friends' got also.
I must say, that I don't force you into deleting those accounts. But, could you think clear? (Skull explained the e-mail thing before.) I'm just protecting these few chilren. It's their dream to be in TDN, so why to delete their accounts? They made a mistake once, and that's it! You can't delete their accounts, just for silly doubts.
And DinkDude95, not funny at all! Maybe you were joking, but think about others! So, I hope you'll make the right choise, and let them enjoy being in TDN. They are even making D-mods for you, and they have school, hard work for D-modding, then when they finally tries to release them, their accounts have deleted. Is it so fun?
I must say, that I don't force you into deleting those accounts. But, could you think clear? (Skull explained the e-mail thing before.) I'm just protecting these few chilren. It's their dream to be in TDN, so why to delete their accounts? They made a mistake once, and that's it! You can't delete their accounts, just for silly doubts.
And DinkDude95, not funny at all! Maybe you were joking, but think about others! So, I hope you'll make the right choise, and let them enjoy being in TDN. They are even making D-mods for you, and they have school, hard work for D-modding, then when they finally tries to release them, their accounts have deleted. Is it so fun?
I don't belive you in some points.
1. You have exactly the same writing style as skull... What a coincidence?
2. I don't think Skull is 18. No way man
3. That post is kinda overreacted in some aspects... Like "It's their dream to be in TDN". He's 18 and this is his dream, and his father have to protect him? Geez...
Didn't convince me.
1. You have exactly the same writing style as skull... What a coincidence?
2. I don't think Skull is 18. No way man
3. That post is kinda overreacted in some aspects... Like "It's their dream to be in TDN". He's 18 and this is his dream, and his father have to protect him? Geez...
Didn't convince me.
Yeah, Skull is born in 1995. You made a big mistake sir.
Like, I live near skull, (he has moved already.)
Well, that would mean you all three should have different IP addresses. If they're all the same AND redink1 can't ping your IP-address when you're not online, don't you think that's really, truely, sincerely suspicious? I'd say you're all using the same computer, which is odd for three different people.
And why do a 18 year-old, his 12 year old friend and his father all have similar writing styles? It doesn't make sense to me...
Well, that would mean you all three should have different IP addresses. If they're all the same AND redink1 can't ping your IP-address when you're not online, don't you think that's really, truely, sincerely suspicious? I'd say you're all using the same computer, which is odd for three different people.
And why do a 18 year-old, his 12 year old friend and his father all have similar writing styles? It doesn't make sense to me...
I am done on this topic.
Edited
Edited
Maybe, their IPs are almoust same because we live near
I live next to my next door neighbor (No suprise there) and his IP address is completely different to mine!! It's highly unlikely that people living near have ALMOUST the same IP. *snicker snicker*.
well skull is 18
Dude! What's happened to your brain! He was born in 1995 (Just like he said) and it's kinda hard to be 18 when you've only been around for about 12 years!
And DinkDude95, not funny at all
*snicker snicker*
Maybe you were joking
*snicker snicker*
No, Skulls old daddy man does have horrible grammar! Worse than my 7 year old sister!
It's their dream to be in TDN
What kind of a dream is that!? Most 18 year olds dreams are to et a job and get married and possibly have sex and, uh, never mind...
I live next to my next door neighbor (No suprise there) and his IP address is completely different to mine!! It's highly unlikely that people living near have ALMOUST the same IP. *snicker snicker*.
well skull is 18
Dude! What's happened to your brain! He was born in 1995 (Just like he said) and it's kinda hard to be 18 when you've only been around for about 12 years!
And DinkDude95, not funny at all
*snicker snicker*
Maybe you were joking
*snicker snicker*
No, Skulls old daddy man does have horrible grammar! Worse than my 7 year old sister!
It's their dream to be in TDN
What kind of a dream is that!? Most 18 year olds dreams are to et a job and get married and possibly have sex and, uh, never mind...
Uh... where did you all get your head that skull was born on 1995? He meant his friend!
And maybe skull's got a little writing style that I've got because I am his father. (He's just much more better than I in english.)
DinkDude95, yep! You may be quite right in the IP address thiny. That's why I said *Maybe*. I'm not such an IP master. Skull's got already a job. He's driving tax. Suddenly, his arm was broken. (Fixed already.) But, he must watch out a little, still. So, he doesn't have to go to work yet. So, he's much in TDN. It's maybe not his dream, but it's those other kids'. And why not? I've seen many people who are even with 20 year old people, and are theirself 10-13 years old.
And maybe skull's got a little writing style that I've got because I am his father. (He's just much more better than I in english.)
DinkDude95, yep! You may be quite right in the IP address thiny. That's why I said *Maybe*. I'm not such an IP master. Skull's got already a job. He's driving tax. Suddenly, his arm was broken. (Fixed already.) But, he must watch out a little, still. So, he doesn't have to go to work yet. So, he's much in TDN. It's maybe not his dream, but it's those other kids'. And why not? I've seen many people who are even with 20 year old people, and are theirself 10-13 years old.
Let them (he?) keep the accounts but ban them from the message board.
Uh... where did you all get your head that skull was born on 1995? He meant his friend!
He said it in his freakin' profile! And being a father to an 18 year old means being about 35 (at least) and 35 year olds don't have grammar worse than my little sister! And how come you've been on much more lately? Skull gone to tell his old daddy man *snicker snicker* that he's being banned from a network? Or are you really him? That is the question!
You may be quite right in the IP address thiny. That's why I said *Maybe*. I'm not such an IP master.
That's a possibility. Though it doesn't take much to be an 'IP master' as you say. All you gotta know is what the freakin' things are!!
Skull's got already a job. He's driving tax
I'll assume you meant taxi.
Suddenly, his arm was broken
I don't think suddenly was the right word there. Arms don't suddenly get broken!
I've seen many people who are even with 20 year old people, and are theirself 10-13 years old.
I didn't quite understand that bit.
He said it in his freakin' profile! And being a father to an 18 year old means being about 35 (at least) and 35 year olds don't have grammar worse than my little sister! And how come you've been on much more lately? Skull gone to tell his old daddy man *snicker snicker* that he's being banned from a network? Or are you really him? That is the question!
You may be quite right in the IP address thiny. That's why I said *Maybe*. I'm not such an IP master.
That's a possibility. Though it doesn't take much to be an 'IP master' as you say. All you gotta know is what the freakin' things are!!
Skull's got already a job. He's driving tax
I'll assume you meant taxi.
Suddenly, his arm was broken
I don't think suddenly was the right word there. Arms don't suddenly get broken!
I've seen many people who are even with 20 year old people, and are theirself 10-13 years old.
I didn't quite understand that bit.
I'm getting prettty fedup, skull and all your other accounts, get a life. Seriously. Creating multiple account on TDN and think you can trick us, lol. Please don't be a soar looser and end this poo right now.
Hold the show folks! Remember how Skull hyped a Dmod abotu Lord Of The Rings and said his friend was making it a while back? And we all said you don't need an accoutn to post and that? Yeah, well, That was way before all of this nonsense about 2 uh 3 uh 4 hold on, 5 accounts of Skull's?
Yeah, well, when Dertin came along he said making LOTR trilogy, just like Skull said. (Assuming LOTR stood for 'Lord of the rings') So maybe, just maybe, (Chances are one in a million) They're different people (Well Skull and Dertin. I don't know about the rest) I still reckon they're the same, but it's possible that they're different people!
Does anyone else think they are? If so, just speak up!
Yeah, well, when Dertin came along he said making LOTR trilogy, just like Skull said. (Assuming LOTR stood for 'Lord of the rings') So maybe, just maybe, (Chances are one in a million) They're different people (Well Skull and Dertin. I don't know about the rest) I still reckon they're the same, but it's possible that they're different people!
Does anyone else think they are? If so, just speak up!
Skull still hasn't admitted it, so why haven't you banananned him yet?
This thread doesn't really have a reason to exist because there's no real proof. What we need is to stop arguing about it and give Skull, Dertin and jameil the time to post at the same time. (Call each other, pick a time and post!) It would be useless to keep suspecting things when you can prove it.
And Redink1 be careful with your king power. If you ban them or delete their accounts without being certain about what you do you could be making a mistake by doing it.
And Redink1 be careful with your king power. If you ban them or delete their accounts without being certain about what you do you could be making a mistake by doing it.
If redink1 want to ban them, LET REDINK1 BAN THEM! Hail the king!
That's the problem with being king I think. You can't voice an opinion, and then try to have the community discuss it, as the rabble will do anything to back his opinion. Note the not quite exemplary behavior of some members of the community in this thread. I'd say that some of you should be ashamed of yourselves, but it's not my place. Still, grow up a little. Nearly all of you. This has turned into a spectacle, a mob, and frankly, it's disgusting.
Sorry, I'm done, I got irked.
Sorry, I'm done, I got irked.
Chrispy calm down. Yea, we *might* have gone to far now but we only want the dang truth
Something atleast, if he's not lying why can't he explain why only one of them can be online at the time? Seems so strange when some of his posts just trail off...
Most of the people here thinks he lies, and those get upset and want the truth... That's not to hard to understand I think
Something atleast, if he's not lying why can't he explain why only one of them can be online at the time? Seems so strange when some of his posts just trail off...
Most of the people here thinks he lies, and those get upset and want the truth... That's not to hard to understand I think
Sure, the truth is fine, but people acting as if he or they are guilty of a horrible crime is not. And the snide comments and insults cross the line. How would you like to be told (even if you did something wrong) that all you would be banned from a community and that all the work you did in that community would be erased? Seriously now, mind you.
To tell the truth, I'm surprised that those who are getting attacked aren't spamming the boards, trying to get back at the people that insulted them. It shows a better strength of character than those doing the insulting.
To tell the truth, I'm surprised that those who are getting attacked aren't spamming the boards, trying to get back at the people that insulted them. It shows a better strength of character than those doing the insulting.
If by any chance you were referring to me then- I thought about it, and modified last 4 of my posts.(I still think they're same person) And won't post on any thing related to this topic.
Hey, I got an idea! If all the accounts that are supposed duplicates post at the same time somewhere, then we'll know that they're different people! Only problem is that the supposed guy behind all this might have multiple computers...
Sorry Znex but, that's been our idea all along. Well, most of the way anyway. That's what we've been trying to get them to do. But we're all still waiting!
DD95! I REALLY don't say anything like that in my profile.
Yeah! And like I wouldn't know my son's age!
Listen these few words. "You can always remove our accounts. You can make Redink1 to remove us from TDN. You can do everything to us. You can change peoples' mind. But what you can't change, is the truth."
Listen these few words. "You can always remove our accounts. You can make Redink1 to remove us from TDN. You can do everything to us. You can change peoples' mind. But what you can't change, is the truth."
This is even impossible if they have no more than one computer. They could be switching usage on the same computer anyway.
Listen to Chrispy, he speaks nought but the truth here.
DinkDude95: Where do you get off? Everybody knows Skull/Slime/etc has/have made a mistake if Redinks assumptions are true, so why be so critical?
"I'll assume you meant taxi" - What is the point in saying that? It's an obvious typo. You're just looking for any excuse to have a go at him.
I don't think suddenly was the right word there. Arms don't suddenly get broken! - Actually, they do. Have you ever heard of someone gradually breaking their arm? If you're going to criticize others for typing errors, don't post nonsensical crap like that.
Don't insult for the sake of it, lest others do it unto you.
DinkDude95: Where do you get off? Everybody knows Skull/Slime/etc has/have made a mistake if Redinks assumptions are true, so why be so critical?
"I'll assume you meant taxi" - What is the point in saying that? It's an obvious typo. You're just looking for any excuse to have a go at him.
I don't think suddenly was the right word there. Arms don't suddenly get broken! - Actually, they do. Have you ever heard of someone gradually breaking their arm? If you're going to criticize others for typing errors, don't post nonsensical crap like that.
Don't insult for the sake of it, lest others do it unto you.
Thank you, ST! Listen, if you want to delete our accounts, then delete. That's simple. But, for me that I know we speak true is enough.
Dertin, do you have your own computer? Or, how were you using skull's while he was on vacation?
May 28th 2007, 02:52 PM
Marpro
I'm out too. I did never intended to get so involved as I did. I'm done poking peoples now. Sorry Skull/dertin/dertin2/jameil/slime(?). I was sure you lied so I didn't want to believe you.
Now I don't know. You seems so dang sure. I'll leave this topic, enough said.
Now I don't know. You seems so dang sure. I'll leave this topic, enough said.
Don't leave the topic, it might still get interesting.
I say let's keep things as they are, it's not like they're/he is really disturbing anyone.
I say let's keep things as they are, it's not like they're/he is really disturbing anyone.
Yeah, they're not really doing anything that's bad or anything. Just leave them as they are, they're doing no harm.
Evidence File 6: Account History
From skull's response to my original post, I realized that he was not going to admit to creating multiple accounts. I also realized that my evidence was not very solid, and I relied too much upon a 'feeling' I had. I was not comfortable bannaninating skull based on my first five evidence files.So, I decided to add some new account-logging features. Basically, I now keep track of when a user clicks 'Log In' or 'Log Out'.
As I suspected, there was some very suspicious behavior in regards to skull's accounts.
Sat May 26 07:48:29 2007,skull,Log Out
Sat May 26 07:48:43 2007,Dertin2,Log In
Sat May 26 13:11:17 2007,Dertin2,Log Out
Sat May 26 13:24:18 2007,Jameil,Log In
Sun May 27 01:24:31 2007,Jameil,Log Out
Sun May 27 01:25:41 2007,skull,Log In
Mon May 28 07:34:33 2007,skull,Log Out
Mon May 28 07:37:29 2007,Jameil,Log In
Mon May 28 07:49:19 2007,Jameil,Log Out
Mon May 28 08:26:50 2007,Dertin2,Log In
Mon May 28 09:36:30 2007,Dertin2,Log Out
Mon May 28 09:37:01 2007,skull,Log In
Mon May 28 11:15:13 2007,skull,Log Out
Mon May 28 11:15:50 2007,Dertin2,Log In
The ip address was exactly same for all of these instances.
This would be expected if Jameil and skull were father and son, but Dertin says he has never used skull's computer.
Just bananned them, lol. They log in each time they wanted to reply to a post. If they wanna proove that they are different person, get them to make a video containing them telling who they are or something.
I think that settles it for me, especially as Jameil said above that skull has already moved out.
I can't see any explanation for the IP address being the same other than they are the same person.
This thread must be some kind of record: 70+ posts in 4 days and hardly going off-topic at all!
I can't see any explanation for the IP address being the same other than they are the same person.
This thread must be some kind of record: 70+ posts in 4 days and hardly going off-topic at all!
I remember the Objectivism thread. 150 posts in less then 4 days, and not going off-topic. Can't say I ever read through it though...
Die you evil dink!
Okay, sorry, that was overdone... I remember that thread (or related threads... there were more, iirc) all too well.
EDIT: Swear filter fun
Okay, sorry, that was overdone... I remember that thread (or related threads... there were more, iirc) all too well.
EDIT: Swear filter fun
You just do everything you can to bann us, redink1. And shouldn't it be 'Evidence File 5: Account History'?
I think the red ink 1 is doing a great job
Skull why don't you just prove that you don't have duplicate accounts or admit that you do have duplicate accounts?
EDIT: It looks kind of funny that I used "that" instead of "if"
EDIT: It looks kind of funny that I used "that" instead of "if"
Skull, just give it up. Redink's last piece of evidence was pretty danging.
It's not like we're going to come to your house and give you a good shoeing. You're just lucky WC isn't around.
It's not like we're going to come to your house and give you a good shoeing. You're just lucky WC isn't around.
Yeah, at this point, I don't think I'd even mind the n00b cannon's fury.
skull, I don't want to ban you. I don't feel any sense of glee or accomplishment when I swing the ban-hammer. If you say you'll only use one account from now on, I will be satisfied, and kill off the rest.
And as for the missing Evidence File 5: I obviously cannot count I did forget about Harshit's Evidence File 5, and I can't use it as an excuse.
And as for the missing Evidence File 5: I obviously cannot count I did forget about Harshit's Evidence File 5, and I can't use it as an excuse.
I obviously cannot count
Don't worry, we all make mistakes.
And SabreTrout, I must admit, I did kinda go overboard. The thing is though, I had had a bad day, you see, we had a relief teacher and I got a detention for something I didn't even do! OK, maybe I did do a little, but anyway...
Being king must be a hard job. And that ban-hammer must be pretty heavy! And banning all but one of Skull's accounts is a good idea. Just admit it Skull! (Or whoever you are.) But with Jameil, supposedly being Skull's father, he may be telling the truth. I mean, Skull could have gone and asked his Dad if he could back him up after using all his other accounts to back himself up. And, sorry for being kinda mean to you Jameil/Skull/Dertin2/Slime. I should have been a little nicer. I take all that stuff back.
Anyway, just admit something Skull!
Don't worry, we all make mistakes.
And SabreTrout, I must admit, I did kinda go overboard. The thing is though, I had had a bad day, you see, we had a relief teacher and I got a detention for something I didn't even do! OK, maybe I did do a little, but anyway...
Being king must be a hard job. And that ban-hammer must be pretty heavy! And banning all but one of Skull's accounts is a good idea. Just admit it Skull! (Or whoever you are.) But with Jameil, supposedly being Skull's father, he may be telling the truth. I mean, Skull could have gone and asked his Dad if he could back him up after using all his other accounts to back himself up. And, sorry for being kinda mean to you Jameil/Skull/Dertin2/Slime. I should have been a little nicer. I take all that stuff back.
Anyway, just admit something Skull!
Yes, I understand your doubts! Those are friendly words DD95 and redink1. (Finally ) But, we aren't the same person.
BTW: What would it help me to lie to you, or make multiple accounts?
BTW: What would it help me to lie to you, or make multiple accounts?
Yeah, there wouldn't be much point to make multiple accounts. If I was jury for this court thingy, I'd say that they're innocent. One, because they're pretty convinced they're separate people, and two, there appears to be no motive. A whole lot of evidence but no motive...doesn't sound right. Even though your suspicions are pretty high up, DD95 and redink1, I think we can safely say this case is closed. No motive, and no sign of them giving up.
We're not stupid. It's obvious that these accounts are all the same person. I'm not so sure why redink cares about this, but he will ban you if you continue your charade.
I think you created the accounts to improve the ratings of your files by reviewing them from multiple accounts, and to improve your ability to spam.
We don't hate you, but we don't like being lied to, especially not when it's obvious. What is so hard about telling the truth? You will be banned, eventually, if you keep lying, and people will forgive you if you stop. I don't see how this is a hard decision.
I think you created the accounts to improve the ratings of your files by reviewing them from multiple accounts, and to improve your ability to spam.
We don't hate you, but we don't like being lied to, especially not when it's obvious. What is so hard about telling the truth? You will be banned, eventually, if you keep lying, and people will forgive you if you stop. I don't see how this is a hard decision.
No offence to you MiloBones, but it's probably 'cos they're telling the truth! And besides, they probably could still review their D-mods without usage of extra accounts, anyway.
Either you didn't see evidence file 6, or you are extremely gullible. :/
"We", "We", "We"... Try speaking for yourself a bit more. Because obviously the opinions are pretty diverse here.
I think I can be reasonably objective... maybe. But if nothing else, its in the rules... one account per person. Redink1 has the power and every right to enforce the rules. I seem to remember cases where multiple accounts where deleted on the evidence of IP address alone. Skull's excuses are pretty flimsy, at best, but regardless, however much we play at democracy, it comes down to Redink's decision....
However, the validity of the rules are another point altogether
Ok, I'm finished preaching for the evening. G'night
However, the validity of the rules are another point altogether
Ok, I'm finished preaching for the evening. G'night
Yep! It is pretty hard to lie and it is pretty hard to tell we are same person cause were not.
Saying that is pointless in a discussion that's about you being the same person. You gotta come up with evidence.
Yes that was my idea too, all the evidence so far seems to suggest skull/dertin2/jameil are one and the same. If you take into account evidence nr 6. I think the evidence is pretty overwhelming in fact. Especially since you said skull, dertin2 and jameil all live in different houses and therefore (I presume) should use different computers.
Has anyone got any evidence of skull/dertin2/jameil/slime being different persons? The only evidence I see is the difference in the kill bill DMOD and the HOC series really...
Has anyone got any evidence of skull/dertin2/jameil/slime being different persons? The only evidence I see is the difference in the kill bill DMOD and the HOC series really...
after #6 I would say there is no question left. Rules are rules. I would say delete the duplicate accounts and leave the main one in tact until another duplicate is made. Then perhaps a banning is warranted (although I am not familiar with the history of this... maybe this is the second offense).
The D-Mod's have something in common, though. All of them are horrible
Actually, if you bother to read the thread, several decent motives were presented, and can be further supported by John Gabriel's Greater Internet Duckwad Theory(questionable language in link).
Actually, I checked earlier, and there's no cross reviewing going/gone on. Either the staff is pre-emptive in this regard, or, you know. They/he aren't.
motives?
read conclusions in my 1st post in this thread. also cross reviewing of dmods as ReDink1 mentioned earlier in this thread.
either we delete his accounts or not he wont stop creating more. so it would be better if we don't ban the skull account even if he does not admit. so we'll be able to identify his duplicate accounts in future. he might have already made 1 more now that he appears so confident <ban us if you want etc.>
read conclusions in my 1st post in this thread. also cross reviewing of dmods as ReDink1 mentioned earlier in this thread.
either we delete his accounts or not he wont stop creating more. so it would be better if we don't ban the skull account even if he does not admit. so we'll be able to identify his duplicate accounts in future. he might have already made 1 more now that he appears so confident <ban us if you want etc.>
@chripsy
redink1 has said b4 that they tried but staff rejected their reviews.
i am double posting bcos character limit<450> reached for my mobile browser.
redink1 has said b4 that they tried but staff rejected their reviews.
i am double posting bcos character limit<450> reached for my mobile browser.
Has anyone got any evidence of skull/dertin2/jameil/slime being different persons? The only evidence I see is the difference in the kill bill DMOD and the HOC series really...
Actually, I do. I was just poking around in the suspects' profiles and what I noticed was that none of them posted reviews for one of the other suspects' D-mods but they did do reviews for other D-mods...
Actually, I do. I was just poking around in the suspects' profiles and what I noticed was that none of them posted reviews for one of the other suspects' D-mods but they did do reviews for other D-mods...
To quote redink1:
They have tried, but we've rejected the reviews.
They have tried, but we've rejected the reviews.
Hold the show folks! Remember how Skull hyped a Dmod abotu Lord Of The Rings and said his friend was making it a while back? And we all said you don't need an accoutn to post and that? Yeah, well, That was way before all of this nonsense about 2 uh 3 uh 4 hold on, 5 accounts of Skull's?
Yeah, well, when Dertin came along he said making LOTR trilogy, just like Skull said. (Assuming LOTR stood for 'Lord of the rings') So maybe, just maybe, (Chances are one in a million) They're different people (Well Skull and Dertin. I don't know about the rest) I still reckon they're the same, but it's possible that they're different people!
Does anyone else think they are? If so, just speak up!
That's one more evidence thingy that says they aren't the same person, but it's still most likely that they are.
And Redink1, could you maybe post another log in log out thing. Cos that one that you posted may have been when Skull, his Dad and a friend where all at one computer together talking and posting and stuff. And logging in and out. And his friend (Dertin2) could have slep over? So maybe just one more log in log out thing?
Yeah, well, when Dertin came along he said making LOTR trilogy, just like Skull said. (Assuming LOTR stood for 'Lord of the rings') So maybe, just maybe, (Chances are one in a million) They're different people (Well Skull and Dertin. I don't know about the rest) I still reckon they're the same, but it's possible that they're different people!
Does anyone else think they are? If so, just speak up!
That's one more evidence thingy that says they aren't the same person, but it's still most likely that they are.
And Redink1, could you maybe post another log in log out thing. Cos that one that you posted may have been when Skull, his Dad and a friend where all at one computer together talking and posting and stuff. And logging in and out. And his friend (Dertin2) could have slep over? So maybe just one more log in log out thing?
Why he heck has he created six different accounts? I believe one is good enough. I haven't been around for a while so I didn't know about this Dertin guy.
Or in other words, to review on his Dmods and stuff multiple times with a fairly large rating. Thing is though, if the file is not worth what he's giving it, then Redink1 or whoever won't actually accept it and put it up.
Well, they have not explained yet why these log ins and log outs looks like that way (I am talking of Redink's Evidence 6). Here:
Sat May 26 07:48:29 2007,skull,Log Out
Sat May 26 07:48:43 2007,Dertin2,Log In
Sat May 26 13:11:17 2007,Dertin2,Log Out
Sat May 26 13:24:18 2007,Jameil,Log In
Sun May 27 01:24:31 2007,Jameil,Log Out
Sun May 27 01:25:41 2007,skull,Log In
Mon May 28 07:34:33 2007,skull,Log Out
Mon May 28 07:37:29 2007,Jameil,Log In
Mon May 28 07:49:19 2007,Jameil,Log Out
Mon May 28 08:26:50 2007,Dertin2,Log In
Mon May 28 09:36:30 2007,Dertin2,Log Out
Mon May 28 09:37:01 2007,skull,Log In
Mon May 28 11:15:13 2007,skull,Log Out
Mon May 28 11:15:50 2007,Dertin2,Log In
Sat May 26 07:48:29 2007,skull,Log Out
Sat May 26 07:48:43 2007,Dertin2,Log In
Sat May 26 13:11:17 2007,Dertin2,Log Out
Sat May 26 13:24:18 2007,Jameil,Log In
Sun May 27 01:24:31 2007,Jameil,Log Out
Sun May 27 01:25:41 2007,skull,Log In
Mon May 28 07:34:33 2007,skull,Log Out
Mon May 28 07:37:29 2007,Jameil,Log In
Mon May 28 07:49:19 2007,Jameil,Log Out
Mon May 28 08:26:50 2007,Dertin2,Log In
Mon May 28 09:36:30 2007,Dertin2,Log Out
Mon May 28 09:37:01 2007,skull,Log In
Mon May 28 11:15:13 2007,skull,Log Out
Mon May 28 11:15:50 2007,Dertin2,Log In
Yes you're right. But remember when I said:
And Redink1, could you maybe post another log in log out thing. Cos that one that you posted may have been when Skull, his Dad and a friend where all at one computer together talking and posting and stuff. And logging in and out. And his friend (Dertin2) could have slep over? So maybe just one more log in log out thing??
And Redink1, could you maybe post another log in log out thing. Cos that one that you posted may have been when Skull, his Dad and a friend where all at one computer together talking and posting and stuff. And logging in and out. And his friend (Dertin2) could have slep over? So maybe just one more log in log out thing??
It seems like you didn't have enough evidence to prove you were not the same person. All accounts you've made except the main account, Skull, has been disabled.
How much evidence, exactly, is needed to confirm redink1's suspicions?
Has this happened before? Are there previous examples of this? If so, what procedures were agreed upon?
Has this happened before? Are there previous examples of this? If so, what procedures were agreed upon?
None of this really matters anymore does it? Dertin2 etc. have all been banananned. Poor Redink1. His poor arm must ache after swingin' that ban-hammer. How heavy is it? 200 pounds? More?
Alternatively, he could have used his staff staff.
Has this happened before?
Yes, drinkspiller's duplicate megaman was removed, just as ladycarrot's duplicate account, mainly on IP-evidence. Before that there are probably some other cases, can't remember...
Yes, drinkspiller's duplicate megaman was removed, just as ladycarrot's duplicate account, mainly on IP-evidence. Before that there are probably some other cases, can't remember...
I can't believe you forgot Jamie/Iceman/Morpheus/etc./etc.
Skull and his friends are from Finland!!?? Should I be proud?
Don't forget theprophet either.
Wasn't there some discussion that he duplicated accounts? Using the same e-mail or some like? I don't remember, I don't recall all that much from comings and goings and that sort of thing.
I like fudge.Chocolately goodness.Mmm Brownies are
pretty good too.But I prefer them without nuts.
pretty good too.But I prefer them without nuts.
Yeah, butterscotch is good too, but I can't say the same for any of the fruit flavors. I'm more of a caramel guy myself.
Please someone tell me what's going on here...
We're talking about sweet goodness. Go away.
Personally I don't think using different accounts a big offence - if a person uses them just for the kick of it. Not for getting some profit out of it, of course (e.g. stats-up of any kind).
It may be interesting to play different parts in different communities - you always play a part when you are in a community, and you act different at home, at work, at school, in a company of your friends, etc. I can understand it, and in different forums I use quite different personalities - because I like it.
But the one thing should be clear:
when you enter a community, you accept its rules. If there are some constrictions (e.g. no multiple accounts) - you take it or leave it. You are free to discuss the rules, but you must accept them as long as they exist. Dixi.
It may be interesting to play different parts in different communities - you always play a part when you are in a community, and you act different at home, at work, at school, in a company of your friends, etc. I can understand it, and in different forums I use quite different personalities - because I like it.
But the one thing should be clear:
when you enter a community, you accept its rules. If there are some constrictions (e.g. no multiple accounts) - you take it or leave it. You are free to discuss the rules, but you must accept them as long as they exist. Dixi.
Personally I don't think using different accounts a big offence - if a person uses them just for the kick of it. Not for getting some profit out of it, of course (e.g. stats-up of any kind).
It may be interesting to play different parts in different communities - you always play a part when you are in a community, and you act different at home, at work, at school, in a company of your friends, etc. I can understand it, and in different forums I use quite different personalities - because I like it.
But the one thing should be clear:
when you enter a community, you accept its rules. If there are some constrictions (e.g. no multiple accounts) - you take it or leave it. You are free to discuss the rules, but you must accept them as long as they exist. Dixi.
Well put! Couldn't say it better myself. Although, that's not 200% true for me. You see, on this forum, I use my real personality. This is me. This is how I am in real life. I'm like this at home, school. (I'm only 12, I don't work). But on this other forum I go on, all of us are a fun lovin' bunch o' guys who act silly practiacally all the time. But I like all of you guys better than them. You're all cool.
And I agree, if you go on a forum, you follow those rules. You can discuss it with staff, but unless they change the rule, you follow it. End of story. Full stop!
It may be interesting to play different parts in different communities - you always play a part when you are in a community, and you act different at home, at work, at school, in a company of your friends, etc. I can understand it, and in different forums I use quite different personalities - because I like it.
But the one thing should be clear:
when you enter a community, you accept its rules. If there are some constrictions (e.g. no multiple accounts) - you take it or leave it. You are free to discuss the rules, but you must accept them as long as they exist. Dixi.
Well put! Couldn't say it better myself. Although, that's not 200% true for me. You see, on this forum, I use my real personality. This is me. This is how I am in real life. I'm like this at home, school. (I'm only 12, I don't work). But on this other forum I go on, all of us are a fun lovin' bunch o' guys who act silly practiacally all the time. But I like all of you guys better than them. You're all cool.
And I agree, if you go on a forum, you follow those rules. You can discuss it with staff, but unless they change the rule, you follow it. End of story. Full stop!
Heres are choices and opinions
1: skull isn't lying and his friends made them on his computer, yes it sounds dumb, but maybe it is true
2 kull is lying and made the acounts, so they should be deleted s
3 kull is lying and made the accounts,but we should just forget about it s
I think that some people that make crappy dmods(Skull) make a new account so they can have a fresh start.
P.S im coming out with a new d-mod, its also my first
1: skull isn't lying and his friends made them on his computer, yes it sounds dumb, but maybe it is true
2 kull is lying and made the acounts, so they should be deleted s
3 kull is lying and made the accounts,but we should just forget about it s
I think that some people that make crappy dmods(Skull) make a new account so they can have a fresh start.
P.S im coming out with a new d-mod, its also my first
What's wrong with the fact that we already did this? Do you think that when Hitler showed up and started World War II some German would have told him that they had already done this a couple of years ago?
Yeah, but World War II was started from different reasons to World War I.
Not the point. The point is that someone was reviving a thread in which the case was already closed.
wow, I feel so ashamed
I'm sorry you lose for Godwinning this thread.
Don't worry. Just watch post dates and replies next time.
baphomet likes to occasionally post useless trash in a bunch of threads.
You dig up ancient threads yourself.
I followed the link redink provided in my court thread. Reading this gave me a few laughs.
I followed the link redink provided in my court thread. Reading this gave me a few laughs.