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Steam greenlight is dead :) second chance for dink ?

February 11th 2017, 11:10 AM
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liquid141
Peasant They/Them
Sons of liberty 
Just came across the news that valve is ending greenlight and its replacement will be called steam direct.

All a dev needs to do to release a game on steam would be to fill out some paperwork and pay money. Do you think seth would be interested in this ? i recall his earlier concern was about getting the votes in greenlight.

http://steamcommunity.com/games/593110/announcements/detail/558846854614253751

I really hope we can do something with dink in 2017 at least.
February 11th 2017, 12:01 PM
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Skurn
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oh, good, good. now it's even EASIER to get garbage on there.
February 11th 2017, 12:16 PM
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liquid141
Peasant They/Them
Sons of liberty 
At least valve will make more money since the devs have to pay for each new release
February 11th 2017, 02:55 PM
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LepROcHauN
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Responsible for making things not look like ass 
I mean, you had to pay for green light anyways. The only difference now is that you don't need a demand for your game prior to releasing it on steam.
February 11th 2017, 03:05 PM
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Bluedy
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I like Frutti Fresh 
They said they did this to "decrease the noise in the submission pipeline" (we all know what that means). I trust 'em, guys. Let them do their thing
February 11th 2017, 06:11 PM
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zeddexx
Peasant He/Him New Zealand
I'm pretty sure I'm worth atleast SIX goats... 
Once again, is there really a need for Dink to be on steam? You can download it quite easily here, as well as more than enough support for modding.

Really don't see a reason for it myself.

Also I'm pretty sure Seth has mentioned numerous times that his involvement with dink was done and dusted.
February 11th 2017, 06:22 PM
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Skurn
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and there's some ludicrous copyright issues, not that seth wants to bother fixing those up.
February 11th 2017, 09:31 PM
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yeoldetoast
Peasant They/Them Australia
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Seth also isn't keen on Steam at all for any of his games, it appears. Numerous people have made similar petitions in regards to Growtopia which have fallen on deaf ears. Makes sense since devs must pay to have their game on there and big fat gaben takes a cut from every sale.

He's also documented his numerous gripes with the iOS store and the Android Play Store over the years suggesting that he's not keen on middlemen when it comes to selling stuff.
February 11th 2017, 10:00 PM
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LepROcHauN
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Responsible for making things not look like ass 
suggesting that he's not keen on middlemen when it comes to selling stuff.

Honestly I probably wouldn't be either. However, the iOS store, android play, steam, etc... are more than just middlemen, they're markets. They're good to use as tools/platforms to bring a wider audience to your work. I can understand why he doesn't like them, but I think it's a relatively poor move from a business side of things. Not that putting Dink on Steam would make him money, but growtopia certainly would. Maybe I'm wrong though. Seth seems to be doing pretty well for an indie developer so he must be doing something right.
February 12th 2017, 03:45 AM
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GOKUSSJ6
Peasant He/Him Poland
Everyone should get a pizza for free in each week. 
Well there's itch.io as an alternative. You can upload a game there and make it either free or not without even waiting.

As for the revenue, you can set how much % of the money you get you wanna give to the site.
February 12th 2017, 12:05 PM
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liquid141
Peasant They/Them
Sons of liberty 
This site is excellent enough to carry on dink probably forever but it would be interesting always to get more people into the dink world, who knows it might spark something in seth to revisit dink universe.

Hope that steam direct is refined further before release, broken releases are not much of a issue on steam these days since you can refund easily on them.

Still it would be shocking if one can just release a game on steam after filling out stuff , pay one time fees.

The main problem is deciding if dink were to be released on some of the pc platforms what version would be best ? Dink hd ? or 1.08 or another fresh edition ?
February 12th 2017, 12:21 PM
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Skurn
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a steamy, fresh new dink, straight out of the washer.

who's gonna make it?
February 12th 2017, 12:37 PM
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GOKUSSJ6
Peasant He/Him Poland
Everyone should get a pizza for free in each week. 
Another fresh edition, duh! Dink HD is a terrible port and 1.08 is well, outdated and has compatibility issues with modern systems.
February 12th 2017, 02:37 PM
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zeddexx
Peasant He/Him New Zealand
I'm pretty sure I'm worth atleast SIX goats... 
Dink Smallwood 3D!
February 13th 2017, 11:42 AM
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liquid141
Peasant They/Them
Sons of liberty 
Would be nice if the community would be asked to make a fresh edition for dink , i was already impressed with what dink smallwood achievement edition had done.
February 13th 2017, 01:39 PM
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Bluedy
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I like Frutti Fresh 
That would be a nice idea To rebuild Dink on a new engine (open-source of course). Maybe even expand on it. Make the world bigger, with more side quests/dungeons/things to do. Kind of like Bethesda games! That would be straight up awesome.
But if it were to be 3D, how would it look like? :-?
February 13th 2017, 02:05 PM
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Skurn
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no, not like bethesda games. we want dink to be finished and not totally broken.
February 13th 2017, 02:47 PM
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GOKUSSJ6
Peasant He/Him Poland
Everyone should get a pizza for free in each week. 
Bethesda is terrible with making dungeons as they are literally copy and paste with nothing unique that makes them different, as for sidequests, most of the time are just fetching quests.

The community should improve the engine or rewrite it to match modern standard while bringing new features and expanded modability.
February 13th 2017, 02:48 PM
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Bluedy
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I like Frutti Fresh 
OK when I said Bethesda, I meant the same freedom and world size. Ya know what I mean
February 14th 2017, 01:39 PM
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liquid141
Peasant They/Them
Sons of liberty 
Maybe unity is the way to start ? i noticed that fans of the shadowrun snes are making the modern remake using the newer shadowrun dragonfall release
February 14th 2017, 01:45 PM
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Skurn
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someone once popped into the dink IRC saying they were gonna make dink in godot engine.

buuuuut, i've migrated to the discord dink, so i dunno if they've popped up again.
February 15th 2017, 11:41 PM
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liquid141
Peasant They/Them
Sons of liberty 
Jesus i had a dream last night where someone made dink smallwood using rpg maker and put it on steam
February 15th 2017, 11:51 PM
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Skurn
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it was a vision.
February 16th 2017, 03:26 AM
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KrisKnox
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The site's resident Therian (Dire Wolf, Dragon) 
Hastily hides Dink RPG Maker project from sight.
August 22nd 2017, 09:38 AM
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liquid141
Peasant They/Them
Sons of liberty 
Bumping this up a ton of games are getting released on steam each day. Should we try to do anything with dink ? maybe ask seth again ??

Btw i missed this post

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and there's some ludicrous copyright issues, not that seth wants to bother fixing those up.

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What issues ? So lets say if the best modders of the community got together and remade/remaster/re-released dink smallwood on steam/gog for example there would be issues ?

also free dink exists which strips the copyrighted stuff right ?

Or if the best modders of the community made a fan based proper sequel to the game and it cant be put on steam with seth's blessings ??

After watching the age of empires announcements yesterday my nostalgia for dink kicked in...

All of the aoe games are getting definitive edition releases and they are making aoe 4...

We should do something new with dink....

Forgotten empires the people who are doing the modern aoe releases were just fan modders of the aoe series , if Microsoft promoted them to take over the job from their own studios , i think we can do better.