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Whats the first dmod released?

January 24th 2011, 02:22 PM
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thor
Peasant He/Him United Kingdom
whos afraid of the big bad duck 
Who knows what was the first Dmod released? And how long after the origonal game? I would check the dates in the list but cant be bothered! lol
January 24th 2011, 02:32 PM
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Skull
Peasant He/Him Finland bloop
A Disembodied Sod 
I'm almost certain that would have to be Mike Snyder's Scar of David.
January 24th 2011, 04:08 PM
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GlennGlenn
Peasant He/Him Norway
GlennGlenn doesn't want a custom title. 
Mystery Island.
January 24th 2011, 04:52 PM
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thor
Peasant He/Him United Kingdom
whos afraid of the big bad duck 
mystery island doesnt count!
I think ill give the early ones a try and see how they have improved since then. thanks guys
January 24th 2011, 09:00 PM
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wongo
Peasant He/Him United States
Theres a party in my tummy! 
Isn't it The Search for Milli Vanilli?
January 25th 2011, 12:29 AM
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Skull
Peasant He/Him Finland bloop
A Disembodied Sod 
Wongo's right. It's the Search for Milli Vanilli. Mystery Island was released WAY after, somewhere around 2000.
January 25th 2011, 06:37 AM
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schnapper
Peasant He/Him Heard Island And Mcdonald Islands
Let us save our effort and just lie down and die. 
I'm sure that ScarD was released before SrchMilli. It was the first Dmod I played; I completed it before I finished Dink Smallwood XD
January 25th 2011, 07:52 AM
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Skull
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A Disembodied Sod 
All right, maybe Wongo's wrong. But in all honesty, who gives a shoot?
January 25th 2011, 08:37 AM
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schnapper
Peasant He/Him Heard Island And Mcdonald Islands
Let us save our effort and just lie down and die. 
The whole world. Let's go kill wongo.
January 25th 2011, 08:39 AM
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Skull
Peasant He/Him Finland bloop
A Disembodied Sod 
Okay, but I get the hand grenades.
January 25th 2011, 10:29 AM
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magicman
Peasant They/Them Netherlands duck
Mmmm, pizza. 
I did some fact-checking with the readme.txt files (where available), and I found the following:

The Search for Milli Vanilli is the first D-Mod ever released, the minimum Dink version required (according to the readme) is 1.01, and it even works with the demo.
The Scar of David is the first non-RTSoft D-Mod ever released. Its readme file lists 1.03 as minimum Dink version. The readme.txt also explicitly states that it was, at the time, the only D-Mod besides Milli Vanilli.
Mystery Island was later; it uses some DinkC features that didn't exist until Dink 1.05. It was included on the CD from which I got Dink (good ol' freeware collection CDs), and I distinctly remember Dinking in 2000. This was with Dink 1.06.

Sources: readme.txt of Milli Vanilli and Scar of David. dinkc.chm, the "sp_picfreeze()" page. The readme.txt of Mystery Island is less useful for determining its release date.
January 25th 2011, 10:44 AM
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Skull
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A Disembodied Sod 
So, I was technically correct in all of this information? Man, I rule!
January 25th 2011, 11:37 AM
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More like 50/50 (EDIT: Actually, make that 25/75 for first saying Scar of David ). Mystery Island was released in 1998, possibly earlier.
January 25th 2011, 11:40 AM
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Skull
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A Disembodied Sod 
What do you mean? The original Dink was in stores from 1998 to 1999, before it was made freeware. Mystery Island was created somewhere in 2000, cause it was called brand new on the Mikro H&HR 2000. Many D-Mods we call classics these days, were created much before Mystery Island.
January 25th 2011, 12:07 PM
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Well, I can tell for certain that Mystery Island was released before 2000 (which is roughly when I first played Dink; Mystery Island wasn't new at that time). When exactly is a guess, but I think it's somewhat likely that Mystery Island was released with v1.05: That version introduced some rather specific-sounding commands (like sp_picfreeze()) that few dmods have used except for Mystery Island. More importantly though, most of the stuff in the Mystery Island folder date to June 1998, which is probably pretty close to its release date.

As for Mikrobitti... It's a third party Finnish computer magazine. 'Nuff said.
January 25th 2011, 12:27 PM
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Skull
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A Disembodied Sod 
But if it was created before 2000, it would have been created before, or just a few months after Dink turned freeware, which certainly did not happen.
January 25th 2011, 01:13 PM
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Why not?

If you need more convincing, check out tut2.htm in Mystery Island's tutorial folder... It has a few dates in it, all of which are '98.
January 25th 2011, 01:40 PM
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Skull
Peasant He/Him Finland bloop
A Disembodied Sod 
Why not?

Um... because it did not? In his 15-8-99 TDN interview, Seth talked about Prophecy of the Ancients being a great D-Mod (so that's proof the interview indeed did happen that date, or at least late that year), and he said he will never create a Dink game again, although he may include Dink in some of his future games. Now, I very much doubt he managed to create Mystery Island, during the rest of the year (4 months), so it had to be released somewhere around 2000.
January 26th 2011, 01:01 AM
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Mystery Island had already been released when that interview took place. Probably more than a year earlier. Wouldn't it be weird of Seth to say he has no more plans to do stuff with Dink, then release a dmod the next year?

Mystery Island was released in 1998! Believe it!!
January 26th 2011, 03:36 AM
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metatarasal
Bard He/Him Netherlands
I object 
Is that a threat?
January 26th 2011, 06:56 AM
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Skull
Peasant He/Him Finland bloop
A Disembodied Sod 
Mystery Island was released in 1998! Believe it!!

Now, 1999 I would still somehow believe, but '98 would mean that it was done just after when Dink was made which did not happen because when Mystery Island was made, the "Dink team" had already broken up and they couldn't get the whole team back for the job. Seth has also said later that he did not have any more plans for Dink but he wanted to try to make a "D-Mod" himself, so he changed his mind. So it's obvious he changed his mind. The next year, I'm not so sure of it, it was just a guess. But I know that Mystery Island was released sometime 2000-2002. Could be very late '99 too.
January 26th 2011, 07:23 AM
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Well they'd definitely got up to the sailing bit by the 24th of May '98... though talking of D-Mods I suppose that doesn't mean much, it could still be in production now a mere 13 years later
January 26th 2011, 07:43 AM
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magicman
Peasant They/Them Netherlands duck
Mmmm, pizza. 
NECROMANCER COMES OUT ANY DAY NOW.
January 26th 2011, 07:48 AM
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Sweet jesus you are so ducking brickheaded. As if all the stuff I already mentioned wasn't compelling enough, here's a deathblow:

http://web.archive.org/web/20010703031317/www.prowler-pro.com/dmods/news0002.html

Scroll down to Wednesday, July 1st, 1998

5 megs? It's HUUUUGE!
January 26th 2011, 08:34 AM
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Skull
Peasant He/Him Finland bloop
A Disembodied Sod 
That website is outdated. And even a not-so-outdated website known as The Dink Network says that Mystery Island BMP graphics were uploaded January 1st, 1990.

Here's the Wiki article of Dink Smallwood, written by Dan Walma himself (some bits seem edited later by other Dinkers though), and in the "Modifications" section it says that Mystery Island was developed by RTSoft in 1999. So, yeah. I was wrong by one year. Gimme a break, I'm still awesome!
January 26th 2011, 10:09 AM
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Quiztis
Peasant He/Him Sweden bloop
Life? What's that? Can I download it?! 
It was an epic battle! Who won? You decide!
January 26th 2011, 01:34 PM
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magicman
Peasant They/Them Netherlands duck
Mmmm, pizza. 
I think that Skull's wiki page reference gave a breakthrough in the argument.
January 26th 2011, 02:00 PM
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Skull
Peasant He/Him Finland bloop
A Disembodied Sod 
Why would you do that for? Now it seems like you changed the Wiki article and I changed it back. Making it look like I think it was made in '98.

EDIT: Also, quoting Christiaan: "I remember being super excited for Mystery Island, so it definitely wasn't packed with the game originally". If it was made in '98, why wouldn't it have been with the original game? Besides, if Christiaan is to be trusted, he has the original CD since '99, and he remembers that Island came later.
January 26th 2011, 08:02 PM
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Maybe it was released as a D-Mod and then only packed with the main game sometime later? Dunno, but don't confuse the release date with the date it was included on the CD.

Interesting wiki history
January 26th 2011, 09:30 PM
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yeoldetoast
Peasant They/Them Australia
LOOK UPON MY DEFORMED FACE! 
Sparrowhawk said:
Maybe it was released as a D-Mod and then only packed with the main game sometime later? Dunno, but don't confuse the release date with the date it was included on the CD.

Interesting wiki history cheeky


I remember getting Mystery Island with the freeware release on a magazine cover disc from a friend along with a front-end loader for playing it with. This was in 1999. Dink SmallWood sales were apparently not ground-breaking enough to warrant another production run of discs.
January 27th 2011, 05:49 AM
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Skull
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A Disembodied Sod 
"I remember getting Mystery Island with the freeware release on a magazine cover disc from a friend along with a front-end loader for playing it with."

Same, although I got it in 2000, from Mikrobitti. So that takes the chance away of it being created sometime later. '99 sounds also a tiny bit too old (maybe you're remembering wrong ), but with all the evidence, I'll just trust Toast on this one.
January 27th 2011, 06:00 AM
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"But I know that Mystery Island was released sometime 2000-2002. Could be very late '99 too."

"I got it in 2000, from Mikrobitti. So that takes the chance away of it being created sometime later. '99 sounds also a tiny bit too old"

Erm...
January 27th 2011, 06:06 AM
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Skull
Peasant He/Him Finland bloop
A Disembodied Sod 
Yes, I just realized that. That's what I was pointing to in my previous post.
January 27th 2011, 07:42 AM
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Wow, Scratcher, you really bother arguing with Skull? You should know by now that it's like arguing with a wall.
January 27th 2011, 07:59 AM
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I do it for the satisfaction of getting through that wall. =)
January 27th 2011, 08:00 AM
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Skull
Peasant He/Him Finland bloop
A Disembodied Sod 
You didn't get through that wall. If anything, you were proven wrong. As was I, though.
January 27th 2011, 08:10 AM
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Alas, there's no chance now that it was brought up. I did get halway through though.

So, yeah. I was wrong by one year. Gimme a break, I'm still awesome!
January 27th 2011, 08:15 AM
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Skull
Peasant He/Him Finland bloop
A Disembodied Sod 
Now let's debate about something else: Jackie Chan vs. Chuck Norris.
January 27th 2011, 08:25 AM
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I'mNotSkull
Ghost They/Them
 
Chuck Norris, hands down!
January 27th 2011, 09:26 AM
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yeoldetoast
Peasant They/Them Australia
LOOK UPON MY DEFORMED FACE! 
Skull wrote:
Now let's debate about something else: Jackie Chan vs. Chuck Norris. cheeky

Jackie Chan. I lost all respect for Chuck a few years ago.
January 27th 2011, 06:45 PM
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Fireball5
Peasant He/Him Australia
Let me heat that up for you... 
When I argue with a wall... I always make sure I'm well equipped.

- Sledgehammer
- Chainsaw
- Sledgesaw
- Chainhammer
- A sort of a mix of all of the above which is a chainsaw attached to the end of a pnuematically powered hammer-type thing. Requires a reinforced chainsaw
- Toothpick (well, with all the overkill I need SOMETHING to balance it all out, don't I?)
January 27th 2011, 10:21 PM
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wongo
Peasant He/Him United States
Theres a party in my tummy! 
DON'T KILL ME, BRO!
February 2nd 2011, 01:53 PM
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thor
Peasant He/Him United Kingdom
whos afraid of the big bad duck 
Imagine the paranoia of the guy who made the first DMOD?
A lot to live up to eh?
We can just play with them knowing a lot have gone before and we have got to be better than some in the end! But those early guys had it all to prove!